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 12-01-2016, 12:17 Post: 23092
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By the codes around here, urine can't be put into a leeching pit. We demolished the house at our camp this summer in favour of a construction trailer. Nobody in their right mind would want to continue using the existing septic system, which incorporates a buried car I've heard. We put in a composting toilet and built a 1000 liter-per-day gray-water leeching pit. The toilet has an electric evaporator and gets by codes because a liquid overflow line is optional. So far, the toilet works OK, although keeping a good composting activity going is a little tricky and requires at least weekly use. If a shop toilet is going to used frequently, it might be a good idea to compare costs of a holding tank and pumping with those of a composting toilet.






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 12-03-2016, 08:27 Post: 23129
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Murf: You're probably aware that the codes governing septic systems etc. were radically changed in Ontario a few years ago. I'm not sure that all the newly privatized health inspectors quite have their minds around the new codes, or maybe the new codes aren't quite consistent. As far as I know, a biffy is still legal. In the original code revision, a new biffy could be installed provided there was no pressure water on the property. I believe that stipulation was removed just last year, but there is still strong encouragement to put in a new code, and very expensive, septic system. The Director of the District Health unit had to approve our application for a gray water leeching pit rather than a septic system for our camp (one or the other is required). We have a composting toilet, but as far as I know we could have built a biffy instead. The health inspector was very definite that that the liquid over-flow line from the toilet couldn't go into the pit. I think the distinction is that human waste and gray water can't be mixed. Any liquid over-flow would be more than just urine, but I suppose the idea is that a little waste and a lot of gray water has greater potential for contaminating ground-water than a well built biffy.






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 04-03-2017, 14:35 Post: 42471
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I remember wash sheds when I was a kid visiting my farming cousins. Wash-sheds were standard. We build a 10' x 10' wash shed last summer because the 40' construction trailer at our camp is too small for a shower.

The shed is on stilts so water will drain into our raised gray-water pit. In our case that will keep inspector Bob happier if he comes visiting, but the issue may not be relevant for everybody.

At the moment, we're using a large laundry tub and heat well water with a propane cooker (boy those cookers sure heat water fast). I haven't figured out if it's worth putting a gravity fed solar heated tank overhead, but I do have to figure how to slope the floor so it completely drains. With or without a shower, wash sheds are truly wonderful things to have. Just wonder around inside and splash cool or hot water around everywhere, which ever is best. I'd recommend building one to most anybody. After it was done, the guy who did most of the carpentry said ‘Boy I sure we’d build one of these at our camp.’ The guys get a little ripe towards the end of moose season I guess.






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